{"id":2181,"date":"2023-10-18T12:29:26","date_gmt":"2023-10-18T09:29:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wikidollar.net\/2181\/hawthorn-hawks-jack-ginnivan-deal-collingwood\/"},"modified":"2023-10-24T23:07:55","modified_gmt":"2023-10-24T20:07:55","slug":"hawthorn-hawks-jack-ginnivan-deal-collingwood","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wikidollar.net\/?p=2181","title":{"rendered":"Hawthorn Hawks, Jack Ginnivan deal, Collingwood Magpies, red flags, steal, Moonee Valley, Caufield races, permission, read the room, Craig McRae"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hawthorn Hawks, Jack Ginnivan deal, Collingwood Magpies, red flags, steal, Moonee Valley, Caufield races, permission, read the room, Craig McRae\u060c<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Hawthorn have secured a commercial &#8220;steal&#8221;, according to Fox Footy&#8217;s David King, after landing &#8220;a diamond in the rough&#8221; Jack Ginnivan on a four-year deal.<\/p>\n<p>But King warned the 20-year-old will need to be &#8220;more back page, less front page&#8221; at his new club after a controversial few years at Collingwood.<\/p>\n<p>Ginnivan was criticized for his appearance at the Moonee Valley races the day before the grand final, in a move that reportedly became the &#8220;last straw&#8221; for the Pies following his pre-season <a href=\"https:\/\/wikidollar.net\/2483\/drugs-bombshell-as-melbourne-player-joel\/\">drugs<\/a> ban.<\/p>\n<p><b><i>Watch every game of the NAB AFLW 2023 season LIVE and ad-free during play on Kayo Sports.  Sign up now and <a class=\"wpil_keyword_link\" href=\"https:\/\/wikidollar.net\/tag\/start\/\"   title=\"start\" data-wpil-keyword-link=\"linked\">start<\/a> streaming instantly ><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>TRADE WRAP: All the news as it happened on the last day of the trading period<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>WINNERS AND LOSERS: Who was right and who was wrong?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>PIES BOMBSHELL: &#8216;The final straw&#8217; that sparked shock exchange as ex-AFL star issues warning to Ginnivan<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>YOUR CLUB: The ins and outs of each team and why they made their decisions<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>TRADE TRACKER: Official list of confirmed deals and free agency signings<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>CENTRAL OFF-SEASON: draft order updated after trade deadline and more<\/b><\/p>\n<p>But the young striker has already \u201cread the room\u201d \u2013 as his former coach Craig McRae told him \u2013 and asked his new club Hawthorn for permission to attend the races this weekend.<\/p>\n<p>King said he believed the Ginnivan trade was part of the &#8220;repercussions&#8221; of that fateful decision made the day before the grand final.<\/p>\n<div class=\"sc-15rcxg2-0 kJtnfi\"><amp-ima-video id=\"body-13-0\" width=\"1.77\" height=\"1\" layout=\"responsive\" data-tag=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ads?ad_rule=1&amp;cmsid=2492325&amp;correlator=1697620762410&amp;cust_params=pagetype%3DAMPArticle&amp;description_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxsports.com.au%2Fafl%2Fthe-hawks-have-landed-a-trade-steal-in-ginnivan-but-these-red-flags-should-have-them-on-alert%2Fnews-story%2F3a3445ffab1971edf3439cd4a4d79294&amp;env=vp&amp;gdfp_req=1&amp;impl=s&amp;iu=%2F21780812979%2Ffoxsports%2Fstory-amp%2Fafl%2Fstory&amp;output=xml_vast3&amp;sz=640x480&amp;unviewed_position_start=1&amp;vid=868371\" data-poster=\"https:\/\/www.foxsports.com.au\/pmd\/images\/2023\/10\/18\/868372_640x360_large_20231018171933.jpg\" class=\"i-amphtml-layout-responsive i-amphtml-layout-size-defined\" i-amphtml-layout=\"responsive\"><i-amphtml-sizer style=\"display:block;padding-top:56.4972%\"\/><source src=\"https:\/\/foxsportspmd-a.akamaihd.net\/free\/nogeoblock\/2023\/10\/18\/dvu_fsn_ginnivan_hawks_18102023_2023-18-10_06-07-06_202310181713\/dvu_fsn_ginnivan_hawks_18102023_2023-18-10_06-07-06_202310181713_2628.mp4\" type=\"video\/mp4\"\/><\/amp-ima-video><\/p>\n<p>The move of the Ginnivan Hawks is now official!  |  04:24<\/p>\n<p><amp-analytics type=\"adobeanalytics\" id=\"adobeanalytics\" class=\"i-amphtml-layout-fixed i-amphtml-layout-size-defined\" style=\"width:1px;height:1px;\" i-amphtml-layout=\"fixed\"\/><\/div>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s a good deal for them (Hawthorn),\u201d he said. <i>Trading day<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI like this guy. I like the way he plays.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe&#8217;s had a fantastic few years&#8230; It&#8217;s easy to just dismiss this guy and say &#8216;oh, he&#8217;s been a problem&#8217; &#8211; all good players have been a problem!<\/p>\n<p><b>AFL COMMERCIAL PERIOD<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>WINNERS AND LOSERS: Farewell gift from the bombers;  the recurring problem of the big slider<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>DEADLINE: Dons, Port trade in final seconds as Hawks complete SIX deals<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>TRADE TRACKER: The official list of free agency trades and signings<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>STATE OF PLACE: <\/b><b>What each club did in the 2023 trade period<\/b><\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe didn\u2019t read the room \u2013 he made a significant mistake the day before the grand final and I don\u2019t know where that <a class=\"wpil_keyword_link\" href=\"https:\/\/wikidollar.net\/tag\/stands\/\"   title=\"stands\" data-wpil-keyword-link=\"linked\">stands<\/a> with the coach.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Craig will never tell us it was a problem&#8230;Given what he went through that night (with the birth of his daughter Maggie), if he had been aware of all the circumstances, I wouldn&#8217;t &#8216;Couldn&#8217;t have said, &#8216;You know what? I&#8217;m playing Johnny Noble instead. You&#8217;ve been lacking professionalism in our club&#8217;s biggest moments for some time.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think (Jack\u2019s) felt the repercussions of that afterward.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"sc-15rcxg2-0 kJtnfi\"><amp-ima-video id=\"body-25-0\" width=\"1.77\" height=\"1\" layout=\"responsive\" data-tag=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ads?ad_rule=1&amp;cmsid=2492325&amp;correlator=1697620762411&amp;cust_params=pagetype%3DAMPArticle&amp;description_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxsports.com.au%2Fafl%2Fthe-hawks-have-landed-a-trade-steal-in-ginnivan-but-these-red-flags-should-have-them-on-alert%2Fnews-story%2F3a3445ffab1971edf3439cd4a4d79294&amp;env=vp&amp;gdfp_req=1&amp;impl=s&amp;iu=%2F21780812979%2Ffoxsports%2Fstory-amp%2Fafl%2Fstory&amp;output=xml_vast3&amp;sz=640x480&amp;unviewed_position_start=1&amp;vid=868373\" data-poster=\"https:\/\/www.foxsports.com.au\/pmd\/images\/2023\/10\/18\/868374_640x360_large_20231018173411.jpg\" class=\"i-amphtml-layout-responsive i-amphtml-layout-size-defined\" i-amphtml-layout=\"responsive\"><i-amphtml-sizer style=\"display:block;padding-top:56.4972%\"\/><source src=\"https:\/\/foxsportspmd-a.akamaihd.net\/free\/nogeoblock\/2023\/10\/18\/COLLINGWOOD_RESPONSE_PRESSER_18102023_202310181719\/COLLINGWOOD_RESPONSE_PRESSER_18102023_202310181719_2628.mp4\" type=\"video\/mp4\"\/><\/amp-ima-video><\/p>\n<p>It was <a href=\"https:\/\/wikidollar.net\/2533\/jack-ginnivan-trade-from-collingwood-to\/\">Jack&#8217;s decision,&#8217; Ginnivan&#8217;s<\/a> decision |  05:34<\/p>\n<p><amp-analytics type=\"adobeanalytics\" id=\"adobeanalytics\" class=\"i-amphtml-layout-fixed i-amphtml-layout-size-defined\" style=\"width:1px;height:1px;\" i-amphtml-layout=\"fixed\"\/><\/div>\n<p>Companion <i>Trading day<\/i> Panelist Leigh Montagna agreed there were \u201cred flags\u201d for Collingwood.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf Collingwood wanted to keep him, they could have,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey probably saw some red flags with him. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think it\u2019s a pretty callous decision on Collingwood\u2019s part.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c(Ginnivan) has an opportunity at a club that is desperate for a small forward.  It\u2019s a smart move on his part and his camp.<\/p>\n<p>Collingwood remains adamant that it has not shopped around for Ginnivan, with footy boss Graham Wright only being informed of the 20-year-old&#8217;s meeting with the <a href=\"https:\/\/wikidollar.net\/2439\/hawks-trade-period-questioned-jack-gunston\/\">Hawks<\/a> by the Hawks themselves.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe came back from Bali on Monday night and met his childhood hero Sam Mitchell on Tuesday,\u201d explained Fox Footy&#8217;s Jon Ralph of how the Ginnivan deal came together 24 hours later on Wednesday.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think it\u2019s a smart move for him.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCraig McRae told Jack to read the play after the Moonee Valley escapades \u2013 I was told today that&#8217;s exactly what he did.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOdded halfway by (Bobby) Hill (during the 2022 trade period), completely ousted by (Lachie) Schultz (this trade period).<\/p>\n<div class=\"sc-15rcxg2-0 kJtnfi\"><amp-ima-video id=\"body-36-0\" width=\"1.77\" height=\"1\" layout=\"responsive\" data-tag=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ads?ad_rule=1&amp;cmsid=2492325&amp;correlator=1697620762408&amp;cust_params=pagetype%3DAMPArticle&amp;description_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxsports.com.au%2Fafl%2Fthe-hawks-have-landed-a-trade-steal-in-ginnivan-but-these-red-flags-should-have-them-on-alert%2Fnews-story%2F3a3445ffab1971edf3439cd4a4d79294&amp;env=vp&amp;gdfp_req=1&amp;impl=s&amp;iu=%2F21780812979%2Ffoxsports%2Fstory-amp%2Fafl%2Fstory&amp;output=xml_vast3&amp;sz=640x480&amp;unviewed_position_start=1&amp;vid=868317\" data-poster=\"https:\/\/www.foxsports.com.au\/pmd\/images\/2023\/10\/17\/868319_640x360_large_20231017174437.jpg\" class=\"i-amphtml-layout-responsive i-amphtml-layout-size-defined\" i-amphtml-layout=\"responsive\"><i-amphtml-sizer style=\"display:block;padding-top:56.4972%\"\/><source src=\"https:\/\/foxsportspmd-a.akamaihd.net\/free\/nogeoblock\/2023\/10\/17\/DVU_171023_AFL_GINNIVAN_HAWTHORN_2023-17-10_06-35-25_202310171739\/DVU_171023_AFL_GINNIVAN_HAWTHORN_2023-17-10_06-35-25_202310171739_2628.mp4\" type=\"video\/mp4\"\/><\/amp-ima-video><\/p>\n<p>Ginnivan calls for shock trade with the Hawks!  |  00:24<\/p>\n<p><amp-analytics type=\"adobeanalytics\" id=\"adobeanalytics\" class=\"i-amphtml-layout-fixed i-amphtml-layout-size-defined\" style=\"width:1px;height:1px;\" i-amphtml-layout=\"fixed\"\/><\/div>\n<p>\u201cHe called McRae to say thank you.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe also asked permission from Sam Mitchell to attend the races this weekend at Caufield so that\u2019s quite clever.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c(Collingwood) didn\u2019t fight very hard for him.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn the blink of an eye, this deal was done.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Although Ginnivan leaves as a leading player, he has not reached the same heights as his 2022 season \u2013 finishing 2023 ranked poorly for forward half pressure points, below average for disposals , the 50 passes on the ground and the involvement in the scores, and the average for the goals.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hawthorn Hawks, Jack Ginnivan deal, Collingwood Magpies, red flags, steal, Moonee Valley, Caufield races, permission, read the room, Craig McRae\u060c Hawthorn have secured a commercial &#8220;steal&#8221;, according to Fox Footy&#8217;s David King, after landing &#8220;a diamond in the rough&#8221; Jack Ginnivan on a four-year deal. 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